September 25, 2003
Grady speaks out on the apparent drop in Halo's H20 levels as seen on The Silent Cartographer.
Most theories don't hold much water; this one, fortunately, just can't hold hydrogen :)
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September 24, 2003
As much as there are those who feel very strongly that time-travel as a plot device is not an acceptable choice, Bungie has used that particular treatment to great effect in the past, and, judging from our mailbag, the speculating public feels that it's still worth looking into. So, off we go!
Natemeep@aol.com (Natemeep@aol.com) writes:
...Guilty Spark says: "Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?" We all know that this implies that the Master Chief bears some semblance with the original Reclaimer. Now I ask you this. What if the Master Chief is the Reclaimer? Stay with me here. I've never played the Marathon games myself, but I've heard and read enough about it to know that Bungie was keen on having the characters, or at least Durandal, find ways to time travel. In fact, from what I gather they really seem to like that type of plot twist. So, what if the Master Chief, say, in Halo 3 or so, ends up going back in time for some reason or another, to find the last great Flood outbreak already in progress? He ends up on Halo again, or some could say for the first time, and becomes the original Reclaimer by retrieving the Index and firing off Halo's weapon. The Flood outbreak of 100,000 years past is halted, and the resultingly cleared galaxy makes way for the rise of Humanity and the Covenant. I could even go so far as to say that may be why the Forerunners were wiped out in the first place, as they may have been outside of Halo when the blast occurred. Maybe, the radiation from the shockwave was what originally jumpstarted humanity's rise to sentience. Interesting idea, no? It's a feasible explanation of why GS seems to know the Master Chief, because he really does. The Master Chief just hasn't gone that far into his own history yet.
Interesting. What with all of the allusions made in-game to the ancient history of both the Halo and, to a lesser extent, the rest of the galaxy, it would be a shame not to go back somehow and see how events transpired, if not actually have a hand in them. The Lord of the Skies may take some convincing, though. ;-)
permalink | The Master Chief
Leaving the time-travel-doesn't-HAVE-to-be-cheesy mode behind momentarily, we look at the possibility that everything we thought was wrong, the Covenant were right, and my, don't we have egg on our helmet. Er, face.
Chadwick fugate (email@example.com) writes:
Lets assume that the Forerunners are indeed humans from whatever time period; and Master Chief is an enigma (it seems to me that the Mjolnir warriors always were). And then take into account that the Covenant stated they were "Instruments of God," or whatever. Well, what if the Covenant were symbolically right? I mean right about wanting to exterminate the humans. Its a theory that the Forerunners actually created or caused the whole Flood thing. What if the Covenant (and their little prophet-dudes) somehow know something we don't know, and are trying to prevent the humans from ever releasing the Flood? Perhaps the Covenant were right all along...
The question (or, at least one of the questions) is, "How would they know?" Whether it's a deep form of racial memory, an information altar left for later evolving generations to find, or something entirely different, however, it's not much of a stretch to imagine that the Covenant have been annihilated before, and this current galactic crusade is their attempt to ensure their own survival. It makes their fanaticism that much more... human, if you catch my drift.
permalink | The Covenant
Eryk B Nice (firstname.lastname@example.org) writes:
The Flood are named just that, Flood. Mention has been made of Bungie's fondness for biblical references. This is nothing new. However, in the Bible, the flood is precipitated by "opening the floodgates of heaven." Granted, many people have focused on the rapid reproduction and adaptation of the Flood, but perhaps this is not the whole story.
Perhaps the Flood have their source and home in another place, be it another dimension or simply another part of this universe. Halo was referred to as a fortress world. Where do you build a fortress? You build a fortress at strategically critical and most easily defensible position, generally in your home territory. Think of, for example, a fortress built high on a cliff wall overlooking a river that enters your territory from the sea. It is much easier to defend a small doorway than to fight off an army when you are standing in the middle of a large room (any decent Halo player will agree). I envision, then, that Halo was built at some point that the flood could invade from, be it a pathway to another dimension, or the exit of some space transportation tunnel. This allows several nice points:
Why build a containment weapon that will kill all the food instead of killing all of the Flood? Well, killing all of the Flood in the area would do nothing for all the rest streaming through the Floodgates. Presumably a weapon of this power could only be fired once in a great while. Killing all of the food, on the other hand, would prevent any flood who came through the portal from surviving long. Perhaps this portal existed naturally, perhaps the Forerunners opened this portal once not knowing what was on the other side. Either way, the explanation works. Destruction of Halo is not a solution - it would only contribute to the problem. Destruction of the Flood is not a solution, more would follow. Starving them, as GS says, is the only way.
Presumably the presence of the Flood in their home is too strong for any kind of invasion of destruction. The best option therefore seems to be to study the Flood, find a way to perhaps turn their own strengths against them in the hope of eventually destroying them for good. I am reminded of the use of a virus to kill a virus, as suggested in certain Card books. This helps explain why you would keep something so dangerous around instead of simply killing them all and ending the threat permanently. I have to disagree with some of the arguments for keeping the flood around that say things like 'we would not kill off all the sharks simply because they attack us." True, but we can contain and control sharks. However, we WOULD wipe out AIDS or Ebola in a heartbeat were we able. This is because these viruses pose an honest threat to the survival of humanity, rather than being a mere occasional tragedy.
This explanation allows the Forerunners to be good. I say this not out of personal desire for their healthy sense of conscience, but rather because it certainly seems that whoever activated Halo previously was reluctant to do it. Recall the question posed GS. I cannot except the casual explanations of the Flood as part of an experiment, or human life not being worth much to the Forerunners in light of what seems to me to be the struggle of conscience reflected in asking another if they would do the same.
The blue plasma streams shot into space could serve the function of either destroying anything that tries to pass through the gateway or sealing off the gateway. I imagine it as sort of a giant bug-zapper for spacecraft.
The biggest advantage to this theory is that it explains quite effectively why you would design a weapon to kill the food, not the creature, while still allowing the weapon designer to care about the food. The only thing I have NOT worked out is why Cortana would advocate destruction of Halo knowing that it is a fortress against Flood invasion. Perhaps Halo is the portal and the fortress wrapped into one? Perhaps it is the installation that drills a tiny hole in the Floodgates in order to let a small drip of water through for study, but also is designed to contain the flow if that hole tears open? I don't know, I will leave it to others to ponder.
We don't know exactly what Cortana learned while in the core. It's also possible that she had prior information that, coupled with this, led her to the conclusion that the destruction of Halo was necessary. Then again, she can be a bit impulsive at times and may not always make the most considered of choices. At least, some of her behavior suggests this. ;-)
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How would we do against the Flood without shields? Ever think about that? Al has.
al -Ghost- moraleta (email@example.com) writes:
I was playing Keyes and I wondered why the majority of scripted Elite corpses are the Stealth Elites. You'd think you see them the least, considering that they are invisible in combat.
So, I conducted an experiment. I set the difficulty on Easy and selected Two Betrayals as my mission. After that, I kept as many Flood alive as possible at the final Flood VS Covenant battle to see if they would engage the Stealth Elites. So, after everyone was dead except the Flood I had protected (Ya don't hear THAT phrase everyday...) and the Stealth Elites, I observed in a Banshee. The Flood easily engaged the Stealth Elites while they were invisible.
Then I selected Keyes. At the beginning of the mission, I picked up the Active Camo power-up. I danced around the Flood, and they didn't respond. They only attacked me if physically made contact with them.
So, because of this, I believe the Flood's sensor stalks can see visually and by tracking thermal signatures. In FoR, it states that the MJOLNIR armor can adjust it's temperature to mask itself from thermal imaging. I think your shields may be involved in this. I know FoR doesn't state that the shields assist in the thermal masking, but bear with me, I'm hypothesizing. Since the Stealth Elites sacrifice their shields for invisibility, they are probably still visible through the Flood's thermal imaging, thus making the Stealth Elites as vulnerable to infection just as Grunts and Jackal's are.
But, since you still have your shields active even while you have the Active Camo power-up, the Flood don't see you.
Evidently, we've improved on existing Covenant technology. Nice work!
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Does Forerunner tech door size matter, really?
Lori (firstname.lastname@example.org) writes:
We can tell by 343GS's behavior in relation to the flood's outbreak that the Forerunner have (or had) very different views on the disaster. While humans and covenant panicked and treated the situation as one of the direst of emergencies, 343 simply followed protocol and lead MC to the solution. I don't believe that a species that feared for its own existence would create an AI that could act in such a leisurely manner during this emergency, nor do I think that they would be willing to construct a weapon that would wipe themselves out in order to control a single outbreak (In quoting 343, "...this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood...") thus, I believe that the Forerunner: A.) Dwell outside of our galaxy, where they would not be vulnerable to their own "security mechanism" B.) (This may be a little stupid) Do not have sufficient biomass to sustain the flood. It is (barely) possible that the Forerunner are simply too small to interest the flood, and are thus impervious to Halo's mechanism. which is why they were able to so easily study them and, through their studies, discovered the threats that a massive outbreak could pose (perhaps infected lifeforms would be hostile towards the Forerunner in the event that they left the ring and infected entire planets). But this theory can easily be struck down by observing the Forerunner architecture. Doorways and hallways are constructed needlessly large to accommodate tiny beings. Control panels are positioned in such a way as to be convenient for humanoid creatures, roughly 5'6 or higher. On the other hand, note the absence of large stairs. Overall, most of the evidence points to theory "A," so I'm simply going to stop rampantly speculating and shut up.
We've had a number of submissions that mentioned the size of the hallways as evidence of the Forerunner's size, but remember, there are a few small doorways, too. The elevators on AotCR spring to mind, as do some of the doors on Silent Cartographer. Regardless, I think the "dwelling outside the galaxy" idea is much more intriguing. Wouldn't it be easier to contain a rampantly virulent organism inside of one (or more) manufactured facilites, rather than monitor an entire galaxy?
permalink | The Forerunner
Okay, this last one is a biggie. Deep breathes, everyone. Ready, set, cogitate!
Karlos Garcia (email@example.com) writes:
Where to start. In regards to Wado's theory involving the Flood. I think that there are certain universal principles by which mother nature operates no matter where one may be in the universe. One of the more important ones is that there must be balance and order in any given ecosystem. You cannot allow any species to be so successful that it consumes most, if not all, natural resources. This is exactly what the Flood-the ones in the game-do. They consume all. That totally goes against what is in the best interest of mother nature. It makes more sense that the Flood are an unnatural phenomenon as opposed to a natural one. This certainly serves to support Wado's theory that there may have been an ancient, super intelligent, form of the Flood. Another possible scenario though may be that the Flood are a natural phenomenon, but didn't evolve anywhere near the Covenant, Forerunner, or humans. Maybe they resided in some very foreign and weird ecosystem that had effective, natural contermeasures to limit the growth of the Flood. Some kind of poison or extremely foul odor to keep the flood away. Maybe the flood weren't exactly at the top of the food chain. In fact, it would be in the best interest of the Flood to have something to limit thier growth because if they ate everything then there would be nothing left to eat. It is very intriging though to ponder why the Flood need a host with such a high level of IQ...
Another aspect of Wado's post talks about how maybe not all of the Halos fired the last time Halo 04 fired. At the very beginning of 2 betrayals, the monitor is elaborating to MC what Cortana already told him regarding Halo's true purpose. He says: "This installation has a maximun effective radius of 25,000 light years, but once the others follow siut, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life,..." What exactly does GS mean when he says "once the others follow suit"? It could be that once Halo 04 or any Halo is fired that all other Halos automatically fire as well. Or could it be that once Halo 04 or any other Halo fires that it serves as a siganal to all others to "follow suit" and fire as well? This would mean that all Halos fire independently of each other. I think that the latter scenario makes more sense. Think about it. Your the Forerunner. You only want to fire Halo's final weapon if it is absolutely necessary. Every Halo is monitored by AI constructs independent of each other (remember how GS says "I'm the monitor of installation 04"). It is very possible that after tens of thousands of years of complete isolation, some AI's might go rampant and use Halo's weapon recklessly. So why design all halos so once one fires, all of them fire? It could lead to a completely unecessary catastrophe. It makes you wonder what the other AI constructs monitoring other Halos are like.
As far as Forerunners populating other worlds in hopes that they would be safe from the Flood and destroying their technology to prevent the Flood from using it just in case they got infected, well I don't quite understand what the logic would be behind that. Why have the humans totally forgotten thier forerunner roots? And what about evolution? How does that whole process tie in with this? Anyways, enough about Wado. On to Bob Cringle's comments on the same day.
About the whole 'Forerunners were water breathers' thing,....I find that hard to believe. Lets look at the proposed evidence supposodely supporting this hypotheses:
1. There is no evidence at all that even suggests that the area surrounding the control room is experiencing a system malfunction that is causing the weather to be so cold.
2. About the flood containment facility being surrounded by water. This seems interesting at first, but this is quickly refuted by the fact that the flood actually get into the water at the end of this level. Nothing happens to them. According to Bob's hypotheses, the flood may have been originally allergic to water. But he doesn't eloborate at all about how the flood may have evolved to adapt to water, a hugh hole in an argument that already seems to be falling apart.
3. About why the earth is covered by so much water. This doesn't really mean anything. Its not like we're the only organism on this planet that needs water for sustainment of life. Every organism needs water. Just look at Mars. That planet hardly has any water and we havn't found any life there yet. In fact, there are many many other organisms on this planet that need water a hell of a lot more than we do. Ever hear of fish? There are god knows how many different species of fish and other kinds of organims that need to live in water. How come there's nothing in the fossil record that indicates humans or our ancestors ever needed water to breathe?
4. The silent cartographer. Well this bit of evidence definitely seems rather irrelevent in light of what I've already said.
Okay, now for my idea regarding the relationship involving humans, Covenant, and Forerunner.
I tend to strongly favor the 'forerunner seeding the galaxy' theory. To support this, I want to bring up something that I havn't heard yet. Human beings are upright walking, bipedal beings. At the moment I can't think of another species on this planet that has that particular feature. The development of this feature in humans marked a hugh change in the course of our evolution. Now, look at the covenant. What's one physical trait that elites, hunters, jackals, and even grunts to some extent share with humans? Another thing that we share with covenant is a high level of IQ and self awareness that no other species is capable of. We can ponder our own life, our own death, what comes after death, what the purpose of life is, etc. We seem to definitely share the same range of emotions and they seem to be just as susceptible to the pitfalls of humanity as us. They are capable of good and evil deeds; arrogance; ignorance; as well as racism (caste system) or other forms of unfair prejudice and discrimination. The point that I'm trying to make is that there are so many similarities between covenant and humans that its highly unlikely that we evolved independent of each other. There have to be some common ancestors. If our DNA is like 97.3 or 99.7 per cent (I forgot) identical to that of gorrilas, then imagine how similar human and covenant DNA may be? We certainly seem to share more in common with covenant.
One more quick question completely unrelated to everyting I've been talking about: does anyone know if there is any chance in hell I could get my hands on any of the marathon games? Never played them.
Lots of good stuff to chew on in there. Nice work, Karlos!
As for that last question, go here (on order now, hopefully to be restocked), and here (look through the downloads area on the right - if you can't find anything useful, look again ;-)), and lastly here. And you better read everything here. And by everything, I mean everything. :-)
permalink | Rampant Speculation
September 22, 2003
There are three things that are never satisfied; four that never cry "Enough!"
Life maintains a strange sense of surrealism even now. I would not trouble you with the marvellous details, but at least one small factor is certainly the recent absence of a computer in the household of the new Mr. and Mrs. Finn. A problem on the brink of solution, but for now, the mailbag still lies neglected. Neglected, and yet it gains.
Undaunted by this, however, has been the speculation on a number of topics in the forum, not the least of which has had to do with several snippets and glances gleaned from the recent Bungie X03 convention footage.
Though it doesn't all leap out at you yelling and eye-gouging, there are several subtle doses of new footage and interesting commentary throughout by several of the B-boys.
Early on, Joseph Staten talks of Jason's claustrophobia-induced story development for Halo 2 (2:15 and on); one scene in particular "which will go down in the untold lore of Bungie". After describing a scene of "horrible betrayal" where "Miranda strapped a bomb to the Master Chiefís back and shoved him down a hole", mnemesis and I frantically compared notes. Who is this Miranda? A new character? A Marine? Another Spartan? Or perhaps merely a more direct reference to Jason's apparently rough break-up around that time? Hmmm... "that might have had something to do with it." Then again... maybe not.
More hints are also dropped regarding the terrain and locales we will soon be facing, "from the ruins of Halo to these ancient Forerunner facilities in the atmospheres of gas giants" (6:16 approximately). A moon base, a gas giant facility, war-torn Earth, Halo's drifting remnants, and a/the Covenant Homeworld. The list grows steadily longer.
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Later in the X03 clip (5:32 approximately), Marcus Lehto, in discussion of the Halo Universe's ambience and history, mentions casually how they really wanted to portray "that there was damage that existed from some battle that happened 900 000 years ago.". Skeletor picked up on this and has posed a few questions and insights of his own.
Skeletor (firstname.lastname@example.org) writes:
Has anyone else noticed the amazing landscape that appeared for a few seconds after Marcus Lehto's bit at around 5:42 in the 50mb avi version of the X03 footage? It's beautiful...absolutely the highlight of the movie for me. It looks incredibly devastated and war torn, and the structures are very outlandish...Definitely some good fodder for speculation.
You can see six bright, glowing spheres in the distance: three on the far right, and two in the upper left (with another, the smallest, between those two). At first glance I thought they were stars, but three of them, quite noticeably, have a huge glowing line trailing upward from their tops (the two on the left, and the upper one on the right). This led me to believe they must be falling down towards the planet (perhaps some sort of orbital bombardment projectile), but on further inspection they appear to be motionless in the sky. The lower two on the right don't appear to be as spherical as the others, though I don't know if that fact has any importance. In conclusion, I don't know what the hell they are. >_<
The structures all look rather alien, but it's possible they might be skyscrapers or some other future human construction...Probably unlikely though.
Very sexy in any case.
An awesome glimpse. Meteorites or ships to ancient Sigma Octanus (or some other world)? Orbital bombardment? Flood-like landscapes indeed. Help him out!.
Let's hope we see a high quality release of this footage (or image, as it does appear fairly static). The resolution is so very poor; we wouldn't want the public to get the wrong impression of all Bungie's hard work ;)
(UPDATE: You can now view a local version of the panoramic view in question here.)
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Humans are this, Humans are that. I know you are but what am I. I'm rubber you're glue...
Wintermute manages to collect a lot of classic speculation in a well written, easily consumable post, and while he's at it, highlight another literary reference mentioned as important to Halo's development. Snipped from his post :
Wintermute (email@example.com) writes:
Jason also said that the Mote series (by Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven, Niven also wrote Ringworld) played a big part in influencing the storyline of Halo.
At first I thought that meant that's where he got the Covenant idea from, from the Mote series, because the Moties (the first Alien race that Humans meet) have a caste system, much like the Covenant.
This could be convincingly argued, but more interesting is that (this is what I think I've figured out) he also seems to have set a certain structure of technological advancement on the human race that comes directly from the Mote series as well.
Most people think, or at least have a sneaking suspicion that the humans are the Forerunner.
In the Mote series, the Moties are an alien civilization that has these cycles where they advance to a certain point technologically and then destroy themselves in war. They keep blasting themselves back into the Stone Age.
So in one of these cycles, some alien gets the bright idea to make a kind of fortress/museum of their higher technology so that it will survive the next big war and then the survivors of the war and their offspring don't have to take as long to rebuild their society because once they figure out how to get into the "museum", their growth as a race with accelerate by leaps and bounds.
So this happened to the Forerunner 900,000 years ago...
Maybe not in the same Cycle System, but maybe in a war against the Flood or something. Either way, I'm betting they were wiped out and somehow the seed of Human civilization on Earth was in effect the next generation of the Forerunner race.
So finally, the MC lands on Halo, walks into the Control Room, 343GS thinks he's "coming back" (figuratively OR literally) to reclaim the higher technology of Halo, or just Halo itself.
Hence the name Reclaimer.
Visit Winternutes full post on the subject to read further or add your own thoughts.
900 000 years ago, eh? Is that in Earth Standard or the magically ambiguous "local year" :P
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September 17, 2003
In pondering the conundrum of the Flood, the Forerunner, and the Covenant, CJ has come up with an interesting theory. Imagine that the Covenant come from (or believe that they come from) a world that was "seeded" by the Forerunner, after the time of the "last catastrophic outbreak" of the Flood and the resultant firing of the Halo system. Discovering, at some point, that their history was due to the benevolence of the Forerunner, they develop a fanatical xenophobia, thinking they were the only ones that were "saved" this way by the Forerunner.
CJ Russell (firstname.lastname@example.org) writes:
The covenant view humanity as an "affront to the gods" because of their apparent survival DESPITE the firing of the Halo, not knowing that we were once Forerunner.
permalink | The Covenant
Apparently, the Covenant are making a mistake that, in their own culture, is about as bad as it gets.
It is, I think, quite clear that humanity is, or once was, Forerunner. This is evidenced by the fact that Covenant technology is stolen Forerunner tech ("They own nothing which they have not stolen", i think was the quote from the Cortana letters)-alluded to heavily in "the Flood". Assuming that this is true, and the Covenant have not improved upon Forerunner technology, then that would explain how the MJOLNIR project actually DID improve upon Covenant shield technology (see "the Fall of Reach").
Assuming that the Covenant worship the Forerunner, and assuming that Humanity is descended from the Forerunner, and assuming that this is developed in Halo 2, who thinks that the Covenant are in for one hell of a guilt trip, eh? ;-)
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Following that, Joshua brings us a nice possibility for the early history of the Covenant. The word of the day is apparently "xenophobe." ;-)
Joshua Baecker (email@example.com) writes:
My feeling is that the ?Covenant? was made only by several species in the actual Covenant. This religious agreement seems to be where the Elite class of warriors (and perhaps the Brutes and Hunters as well) have elevated the Prophets as bringing the gods to earth. Its like having Christ?s apostles walking the earth every day telling you what you are and aren?t doing right, according to Christ?s vision. In some ways it?s a perfect form of voluntary slavery. My feeling is that the Prophets cemented their control of this confederation by demonstrating the technology of Halo for the other species currently in the Covenant, and telling them that they were bringing them this technology, as a gift of the Gods. If they did this at a time point where it possibly saved the Covenant from some other enemy that would explain their xenophobic nature towards humans, as well as how the religious fervor of the Covenant began. (For any who don?t like this I refer you to Frank Herbert?s Dune which gives you a phenomenal view of how a person can manipulate religion and politics to become a god among men.)
While it's often the case that the kind of speculating we do around here gets dismissed as far too complicated for the backstory of a video game, remember that this is a Bungie game. What Joshua's got here is just the kind of stuff we'd be likely to find in the Halo Story Bible (curse its mocking, sheltered existence!).
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CJ Russell (firstname.lastname@example.org) writes:
There's been a lot of speculation about the flood-like plants in GS, and I think I may have an idea as to the nature of these plants (which are contained in one part of Halo that we see).
Assuming for a second that the Forerunners preserved the Flood, despite the imminent danger to the rest of the sentient creatures in the galaxy (through both the flood and the Halo that contained them), for the purpose of maintaining a balance of life, then how would they utilize the flood? They could, presumably, keep them locked up on Halo forever (or until their release as in the game), or they could keep them there until such a time came that they found a USE for them.
Enter the trees.
Now, while a swamp is not a place I would personally choose to live, it IS a place where life could thrive. Many places we see on Halo connect the "natural" portions to the constructed sections. Would it not be feasible to connect just the environmental components (specifically atmosphere) to another section of Halo, just above it? Go with me here...GS talks about how the flood "alter the atmosphere"-it doesnt matter how, or into what, but what IS important is that it's apparently not compatible with our physiology, and he mentions how the suit will "protect" us. What if the trees in the swamp were genetically engineered by the Forerunner for the purposes of converting Flood exhalations into breathable atmosphere? If that were true, then the Flood would have value as an organism capable of terraforming planets relatively quickly, between the gas exchange of modified flora and the flood. If the Jjaro are to Forerunner what the S'pht are to humanity, then haven't we already seen manipulation of a lifeform to the greater will of a "supreme" alien race?
Also, it seems obvious to me that the flood come from a high-G planet. Not only are the primary forms very short, but they can also jump quite far in what we consider to be "normal" gravity, and even farther after they have gained a host, and altered their physiology. Connections to the race imprisoned by the Jjaro in the gravity well abound as a result of this, but then, most people have already seen that parallel.
There's that "J" word again. ;-) Very nice work putting it together, though. That "balance of life" concept is so simple, but can lead to such a wealth of fascinating situations, especially in conjunction with our (current) favorite inscrutable alien race. :-)
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Keith Jackson (email@example.com) writes:
Maybe there is another classifaction of the Flood. The parasite may actually lie dormant in the host. The host poses no theat and undergos no change, yet. This could be the true reason for the Flood. Possibily the Forerunners made these flood type originaly as the weapon. The host would carry the flood back to the main race or planet, for humans earth and the other planets. The other forms of the flood were just experiments gone bad. If my theory is correct there was only one type of this parasite/host flood shown in Halo, the Sergeant. The Sergeant died numerous times, but still always come back. I believe these Flood keep rebuilding the cells of whatever is lost in the host when it dies. Which would mean this flood couldn't die while still in the host. Need me to simplify? The sergeant will die when he gets back to a human planet because the flood will unleash itself, and the sergeant is techinally dead now because the flood was the only thing keeping his body alive, and now its gone from him.
The Sarge, a willing agent of the Flood? Noooooo!!!
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Robert Corregan (firstname.lastname@example.org) writes:
Ever consider the possibility that the Flood are the Forerunner? Think of it. The Flood built the Halos as places they could hibernate in without being discovered. Then they built the Monitor and Sentinals to guard the facilities. (Now hear me out.) The Flood then try to take over the galaxy and failed because there were more advanced civilizations(human and covenant ancestors). They started loosing and retreated to the Halos and started to hibernate. The few remaining ones, with the Monitors assitance, activated the weapons. The advanced life in the galaxy was destroyed. They all hibernated because of lack of food. The Monitor became rampant and then started to hate his masters. The humans and Covenant became dominant again and found Halo. It could also be that is way the Monitor says "I'm so happy to see that some of them reproduced."
Well, 343 Guilty Spark is insane, no doubt about it. He's certainly had a loooong time to twist his original purpose into its polar opposite.
permalink | The Forerunner
Karlos Garcia (email@example.com) writes:
I want to point out something that I think is interesting and that fits in very nicely with the whole 'covenant are a collection of conquered species' theory. Every weapon the Covenat uses is plasma based except for one....the needler. Why would the Covenant issue this gun to infantry units if it is projectile based? Why do they use this weapon and how and where did they get it? the Covenant obviously view such weapons as inferior, as is evidenced in the book, The Flood. Early in the book when Captain Keyes is barely being captured, an elite says "Projectiles. How primitive." or something along those lines. His comment is in regards to a human pistol he procures from a dead UNSC guy. Besides all that, the needler is not a very effective weapon. Its difficult to think the needler being very useful against elites, humans, hunters, or even jackals or brutes. But what about grunts? They are very slow and don't have a whole lot of athleticism at their disposal. Plus, they don't have the kind of armor that hunters have or the shields that jackals posses. Maybe the weapon was originally used by one of the Covenant species against grunts. Or perhaps, the grunts themselves used the weapon against themselves...like different grunt tribes or clans competing against each other. Perhaps the armor that the hunters use and the shields that jackals have were developed to defend against this weapon. Elites may not have as much need for these kind of countermeasures because of their high level of speed and athleticism. As far as the needler coming from the Forerunner, that doesn't seem to make sense since the needler seems so different than everything else the Covenant have and anything that's found on Halo. Its also interesting to note that at least some of the grunts don't seem to be too thrilled with their low position within the covenant caste. If you've read The Flood, you'll know what I mean. It makes more sense that at least some of the different races that compose the Covenant were absored into it against their own will. If that's the case, then it would also make sense that those races would also bring some of their cultural baggage into the Covenant, and that includes weapons technology. It is said that everything the Covenant posses they have aquired from other species....so isn't possible that some of that stuff coud've come some races within the Covenant, not just the Forerunner? I'm not sure, but this could also bring up some interesting ideas about the fuel rod gun the hunters use.
I think it's especially interesting that both the needler "needles" and the plasma pistol overcharge have the ability to track a target. It's not the weapon itself that maintains the lock, the projectiles (or plasma charge) seem to do it themselves. Any thoughts on this, people?
permalink | The Covenant
Here's a quick observation. Remember when Jason Jones said that the history of the Pillar of Autumn wasn't quite as interesting as the Autumn's twice-renamed sister ship, Dawn Under Heaven? I'm wondering if any of the big brains at the UNSC are considering yet a third renaming. After all, who's gonna want to say they're crew on the DUH? ;-)
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permalink | Rampant Speculation
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