They're random, baby














The Halo Story


News Archive


June 26, 2002

Ever wonder why the Flood-form of Captain Keyes is so different from the Flood versions of other races?

craZy (Drow780@aol.com) writes:

...the Captain Keyes blob has around two other pairs of legs sticking out of it. That means that more then just Keyes was pulled into the thing.

On a related note, Mark Levin (haveblue@mac.com) notes in this HBO forum post (which was a response to this post by Spartan III) the following:

Look at the blob behind Keyes, the second pair of legs is unmistakably Covenant.

So my question is this: What is included in the "Keyes blob?" Why?

permalink | Captain Keyes

-mnemesis


June 19, 2002

Halo Story Tidbit - Revealed?

This just in - Jaime Griesemer, in an interview in the July issue of OXM UK, drops a considerable hint concerning the Halo (and possible Halo 2) story:

OXM: Can you tell us one single secret about Halo or its sequel that you haven't told anyone else?

JG: Well... I'll just say that Master Chief didn't meet all of the factions that had a hand in the events of Halo. There were forces behind the scenes that were alluded to, and you could probably deduce some of their motivations if you paid close attention. But they never confronted the Chief directly.


"Forces behind the scenes"? Not the Forerunner, we ran into them (or their creations, at least) all through the game.

Any thoughts? ;-)

permalink |

-mnemesis


June 12, 2002

Ever wonder about the gravity on the PoA? Over on the HBO forum, all is revealed...

;-)

permalink |

-mnemesis


June 7, 2002

A Flood... ...of Submissions

In honor of today's triumvirate of my birthday, the one-month pre-anniversary of Bungie Day, and the official 100th un-responded submission in my inbox (a benchmark that shall henceforth not be repeated), I'd like to present An Update!

Who were the Forerunner? Why do the Covenant wear Forerunner symbols? Where did the Flood come from? Who does 343 Guilty Spark think the Master Chief is? Why does the Halo destroy the Flood's food, but not the Flood themselves? Are all of these things connected in some way? And does Durandal fit into this at all? ;-)

We've received a really large number of submisions that attempt to answer one or many of these questions. I apologize to everyone for not responding sooner on some of the more coherent ones, and I've tried here to compile a selection with submission credit given where I can.

We'll look today at the idea of the Forerunner and who/what they are/were.

The Forerunner were Covenant

Dolores Beaulieu (doloresbeaulieu@charter.net) writes:

You see, the Covanent and Forerunner are very much alike. They have the same control pannels, the installations on Halo shoot plasmma just like the Covanent weapons, and the Forerunner robots and the Covanent both speak English.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


SAMPO Man (sampo@antisocial.com) writes:

My thoery has the Covenant being and not being the Forerunner at the same time... ...but maybe the ones reffered to as the Forerunner are now dead. Maybe the Forerunner are other alien species and just more of one army, that possibily died because of a Flood outbreak on another installation... ...Maybe the aliens on Halo are the Covenant, but their fallen comrades are now referred to (respectfully) as the Forerunner.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Ry Kuntze (hydrokodone@hotmail.com) writes:

...the Forerunner genetically created the Covenant to serve as a militaristic race that would defend the various Halo installations from invasion. To further the Covenant's success, the Forerunner imbued a certain amount of 'holiness' to the Halo structures and fed such truths to the Covenant as a form of religion: if the Covenant believe that the Halo installations are holy, they'll defend them much better.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Jonathan Steed (duckbill5587@hotmail.com) writes:

I think that the forerunners were actually covenant. I think that why they abandon the halo is because the flood killed high numbers of them, and they had to evacuate. The forerunners settled on a planet that later became the covenant homeworld.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


neospirit1 (neospirit1@earthlink.net) writes:

Perhaps the covenant are actually a group of forerunners who started the war against the humans. They would have the same technology and symbols present in various locations on halo.The covenant organization went off to wage war, while the forerunner group continued their exploration and studies.

permalink |

-mnemesis


Andrew Hovey (andy_cap_@hotmail.com) writes:

...The covenant hold halo as some kind of realigious symbol, which is why they did everything they could to stop the PoA and her crew from landing on it, which includes launching boarding parties, and destroying life boats... ...The covenant obviously know there way around halo, or at least it seems that way. This may be explained by how the covenant always seem to be one step ahead of the Masterchief and Cortana... ...The technology on Halo and inside the covenant ships are very similiar. Aside from all the holographic control pannels, a good example of this is located in the Silent Cartograher level. Around the first two levels while desending toward the location of the control room, there is a large pillar which gives off purple light, and a hovering-like sound. This sound is exactly the same as the grav lift on the Truth and Reconcilliation.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Arthur Wellesly, however, has thought of a pretty good reason why the Covenant use of Forerunner symbols might not be significant:

Arthur Wellesly (arthur_wellesly@hotmail.com) writes:

It is important to note that that in the FoR, Dr. Halsey said the Covenant assimilate other technologies to their own. This not only explains why the symbols are the same, but aslo why the plasma beam on Level two looks just like Covenant weapons on Level one.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Lastly, forumgoer Wimoo provides an alternate explanation for the Forerunner symbols:

Wimoo Wiimsly (wimoo@hotmail.com) writes:

Maybe the covenant used to be the Forerunners' semi-satient 'slave' helpers. They evolved self-awareness after the Forerunners (died out?), and retained the forerunner symbols, not knowing what they mean. THIS is why they are occupying halo- to discover the truth about their origins!

All good points, and most with a lot of other (edited for brevity) wild and creative speculation. ;-)

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


The Forerunner were The God-Like Planters of the Galaxy

Specifically, that their DNA is integrated into ALL species, Humans and Covenant included. We are 'cousins' of the Covenant, if you will.

Dustin M. (theblast00@hotmail.com) writes:

I would figure that the Forerunners were either the first or one of the first sentient beings in the universe and that they saw that their species was coming to an end. I would speculate that the Flood is the cause. As a last ditch effort to keep the species alive, they plant their DNA in every possible alien species evolving into what they think will be sentient. This DNA is routed so that their achievements and developments will evolve with the species. (Hence the same symbols with the covenant that are seen on Halo and when 343GS remarks about seeing the Mjolnir armor on the MC before.)

They construct the Halos and 343 GS and kill off themselves and any other sentient beings at the time to stop the flood spread. The species they implanted the DNA in were not affected as they weren't sentient yet. The species evolved and discovered Halo.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Matthew Braithwaite (ypocy2k@hotmail.com) writes:

I, personally, think that the forerunner(s) are some sort of god-like species, who created lots of races through their many tests and experiments. The first time they used the halo(s) must have been like the "flood" in the bible where god destroyed the earth in order to start a fresh. Maybe the forerunner(s) saved some of the races from the destructive force of the halo(s). Then to help them re-establish themselves, they must have given them help with new technologies (hence both humans and covenant having MJOLNIR armor).

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Lastly, a variant of this thread.

D'Vane Polhill (DaPhatPhantom@msn.com) writes:

There might have been a single specie in the beginning. They were all peaceful. Soon, three groups formed and all of them had different ideas. One group could possibly be the Forerunner. They moved and settled elsewhere. The Covenant remain at their original spot, and what would later become the Flood, moved elsewhere as well. The Forerunner advanced in technology fast.

All interesting...

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


The Forerunner were Artificial Intelligences

Mr. Elliotto (elliotmohr@yahoo.com) writes:

People before have theorized that perhaps the Forerunners were mechanical beings, not biological. Well after reading through people's thoughts, I had one of my own. The most prodominant being: Why wasn't the flood destroyed outright if it were so dangerious? This, and possibly the creation of Halo are answered if you assume the Forerunners were machines.

My theory is that perhaps the entire Halo itself was created as a research facility. And I don't mean just for the flood--I mean all the biological life found on the surface of Halo's inner ring was a result of the Forerunners dabbling in biology.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Acerdude17 (Acerdude17@aol.com) writes:

The Forerunner is/was evidentally far superior to any other race discovered at the time. To me the answer is blatantly obvious. The Forerunner consists of a fleet artificial intellegences (including centinals and and monitors, like 343 GS). I come to the conclusion based on the simple fact that Halo was designed to wipe life-forms away clean, the only reasonable reason somebody would build such a device is because they aren't organic life-forms. Really, why would you wipe yourself out with all that technology, or even create the capability for doing so? Anyway, the Forerunner built Halo to function as a life-form research center, that explains why it was built so as to sustain life, but also have the capabilities of wiping it away. They began by starting with simple things such as the trees, flowers, shrubs, and grass. Then the set of robotic "species" began to make infectious spores, later to become known as the flood. The Forerunner dis! covered how parasitic life was able to conquer all the simple life forms. Evidence of that particular experiment can be found in the level "343 Guilty Spark" (with all the infected trees/swamp areas).

Is there any evidence that the Forerunner were biological beings? If not, then these might have some real merit. If we are to eventually unravel this story, and not just speculate endlessly about different fantastic possibilities (which isn't necessarily bad, mind you ;)) then we ought to be able to support our theories primarily with evidence from the game, and secondarily from the book.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


The Forerunner were Human

This one seems to be the most straightforward, and sensible. GS himself gives it away, if it can be given away, with his comment, "All our lost time! Human history is it?," and "Stop acting human!" (this, when you try to shoot him) The apparent timeline is that the Halo has been activated at least once before, thus wiping the entire galaxy of all life (apart from that which is on the Halo itself). Assuming at least one prior activation of the Halo(s), the idea is that Humans had reached a far greater degree of technological advancement, had created the Halo system (whether in response to the Flood or for some other purpose - this is left for another discussion ;)), and had been annihilated or scattered somewhere far from Earth.

Drew van Vliet (cptcanuck23@yahoo.com) writes:

I belief (like many others) that the Humans are the Forerunner. To me this is very obvious. I mean from the comments that 343 Guilty Spark makes, I gathered that he believes the Humans and the Forerunner are one in the same. An obvious one was when he said; "I would conjecture that the other species currently on the installation is responsible for releasing the Flood. They seem most persistent in their attempts to access restricted areas." I am assuming that by the other species he means the Covenant (they were the first to release the flood). Another is when he said; "You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating." This is implying that Human history is the piece of the timeline lost after the Halos were used. How do I know the Halos were used before? From yet another quote "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed." Considering that he still wants you to activate Halo's defences you can say that his original answer was "yes."

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


Warren Wilson (warrenvw@softhome.net) writes:

Factual evidence in the Library is abundant and is supplied in brief intervals by 343 GS's random statements. To first take a crack at analyzing the whole mystery, we must ask ourselves the oh so common question of "who does 343 GS think the MC is?" He refers to MC as reclaimer, and talks throughout the entire game as if our hero, John 117, is part of an old, recognizable race with whom the floating monitor is already familiar. Well that's because he is. MC is forerunner, just as all humans once were.

When 343 GS lectures you about bringing ineffective weapons, despite the containment protocols, he talks as if you already knew the protocols. How could you have, unless you are part of the race that originally constructed Halo? He also refers to the other race (the covenant) as being responsible for releasing the Flood. Indeed we know they are, for Cortana informs us of this when she freaks out in Halo's control room back in the fifth board. "The other race" signifies there being two races, one which you must be a part of since he's addressing the statement to you. Once again, this clues you into being forerunner, for it is unlikely that the monitor has been exposed to more races than those who have made it onto halo, and if he is only aware of two, and one is the covenant, then the other must be human/forerunner.

343 GS also identifies your battle suit as being class two, and suggests upgrading to class twelve. If he recognizes your suit, it must be based on a technology that is forerunner and human at the same time. Perhaps this is the shield system, stolen from the covenant, the same system that makes the elites so darn hard to take down. But where did the covenant get it from. Well, talk about loopholes, probably from technology laying around in halo. This would give reason to 343 GS recognizing the model of your armor (despite how inferior he makes it sound).

However, one of the more important clues is in what 343 GS says towards the end of the Library, when he comments "The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce." Whose survival as a race, the Flood? Certainly not, that would be inconsistent with what he'd been saying all along. Most likely he's referring to the Forerunner. Granted, we don't know anything about why the flood was necessary for the survival of the forerunner, and why there was a previous outbreak. Heck, it might even be possible that the forerunner created the flood for some perverse reason. What we do know is that he's referring to you, MC, as being that offspring, and if the race he's talking about is the forerunner, which it most undoubtedly is, then he is identifying you as forerunner as well.

And how is it that Humans evolved the same way a second time (or third, or fourth, on and on)? Why, Destiny, of course.

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis


An aside, the fact that GS calls you "Reclaimer" might not be as significant as it seems.

Corey White (the_trailerpark_kid@hotmail.com) writes:

However, I don't recall hearing the name "Reclaimer" until after you 'reclaim' the index. Maybe I'm wrong and he does say it beforehand, but even so, that could be becuase 'reclaiming' the index is what your trying to do. And when he says "Why would you hesitate to do what you have already done" I think he just means 'what you have been trying to do.'

Hmm...

permalink | Monitors

-mnemesis


Finally, we could not let this one pass us by:

Kurt Eskew (keskew@kc.rr.com) writes:

...343 GS interest in human history, the strange symbols, and the covenants religious obsession with Halo. It all points to one thing, the Forerunner are the descendents of the artist formally known as Prince. Just think about it for a second. What else could be the explination. My theory is that Prince, or what ever he is called now, was frozen and launched into space. He landed on an alien world, defrosted, and began cloning himself. He then transmitted his music throughout the galaxy where the Covenant picked it up. They loved it and began to seek out its source. The genetically enhanced Prince then constructed Halo, conceived an entire language with just symbols and duplicated is devout fans, the flood. However the flood soon became disinterested and drove their masters from the Halo, a long time passes and eventually MC comes by.

Kind of ends the discussion once and for all, doesn't it? ;-)

permalink | The Forerunner

-mnemesis



Monthly News

Dec 69 | Jan 02 | Feb 02 | Mar 02 | Apr 02 | May 02 | Jun 02
Jul 02 | Aug 02 | Sep 02 | Oct 02 | Nov 02 | Dec 02 | Jan 03
Feb 03 | Mar 03 | Apr 03 | May 03 | Jun 03 | Jul 03 | Aug 03
Sep 03 | Oct 03 | Nov 03 | Dec 03 | Jan 04 | Feb 04 | Mar 04
Apr 04 | Jun 04 | Jul 04 | Aug 04 | Sep 04 | Oct 04 | Dec 04
Jan 05 | Feb 05 | Mar 05 | Apr 05 | May 05 | Jun 05 | Jul 05
Sep 05 | Oct 05 | Nov 05 | Dec 05 | Jan 06 | Feb 06 | Mar 06
Apr 06 | May 06 | Jun 06 | Jul 06 | Aug 06 | Sep 06 | Oct 06
Nov 06 | Dec 06 | Jan 07 | Feb 07 | Apr 07 | Aug 07 | Sep 07
Nov 07 | Jan 08 | Apr 08 | May 08 | Jun 08 | Jul 08 | Aug 08
Sep 08 | Oct 08 | Dec 08 | Jan 09 | Feb 09 | Mar 09 | Apr 09
Sep 09 | May 10 | Jun 10 | Aug 10





bungie.org