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May 14, 2003

The possibility of S'pht script on a subtle sign? Earth City set in East Africa?

The tip of the iceberg looks mighty good.

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-Finn


May 13, 2003

And four to... ah, forget it. E3 blitzkrieg!

The plan has been skewed, but can be remedied yet...

AlphaBravo343 (e.moeller3@verizon.net) writes:

Firstly, i think that the forerunners were the only sentient life in the galaxy, and they seeded other planets with life to grow individually. Elites, grunts, jackals, brutes, hunters, prophets, and humans. (this theory is not mine, i found it in a fanfiction). The forerunners left special technology for each race to find once they had matured and discovered interstellar travel. The prophets were the first ones to develop interstellar travel, and found their technology, the discovered the elites. And from there, they recruited the other races within the covenant.

When the united races found each other, they realized that there was one race missing from the complete caste the forerunners had intended for there to be.....the humans. When finally discovered, the Covenant found that we had slipstream space travel (one of the technologies left by the forerunners) and saw we were advanced and intelligent. And then they discovered that we had developed our technology on our own. Then they realized the potential threat we posed and saw we would not succumb to their regime; that we would not accept a position of reverence for the prophets and we would not accept their beliefs with open arms.†

Seeing our armies and weapons, they decided within themselves that the "gods" saw us as an abomination (the prophets most likely tell the Covenant what to believe to better suits themselves), and the humans must be destroyed. Thus the holy war between humans and Covenant begins.†

However, this opens further speculation. The Covenant, if they succeeded in their endeavor to destroy us, would have defied the forerunners. Assuming the forerunners aren't extinct, they would be angry, to say the least. And perhaps, if the forerunners returned before the holy war was over, they would ally with the humans and wipe out the covenant. I'm sure that the forerunners planned for us to live in peace with one another, and seeing the malevolent agenda of the Covenant, would want to "correct" the error.

Big Brother is watching, with any luck.

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


Murder! Death! Conspiracy! An extremely old and oft mentioned idea is dragged kicking and screaming into the light.

Fallout921 (Fallout921@aol.com) writes:

well this is what i think i could be wrong. the covenant holds the forerunners as their "gods" and most probably their creators the covenant prophets/priests have taught them this for centuries but they have found out something about the forerunners that would literally destroy their power and control over their own people... the forerunners are HUMAN and if the normal covenant races find out all they have been taught would have been a fake a lie and would surely cause havoc against their own races but most importantly the priests themselves. that's why they have ordered the complete genocide of all the human race in order to silence the real truth that one day would eventually be found if their plans are not carried out.

So, Humans are either related to the Forerunner directly, or have had a special relationship with them in the past.

But surely the Elites and Prophets have built their covenant upon a foundation of trust, where they share everything. Why, if word of this plot was to get out...

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


J. Ross "Ebola" Keverne (Jkeverne@hotmail.com) writes:

Prophets are lying to the Elites... probably...

Page: 6:
"Like all the members of his caste, 'Fulsamee knew that the
Prophets had evolved on a planet which the mysterious truthgivers
had previously inhabited, and then, for reasons known
only to the ancients themselves, subsequently abandoned."



As well as indicating the Caste structure of the Elites it makes me wonder if even they don't know where the Prophets are truly†from. The implication is that lower Caste Elites don't know about the Prophets original homeplanet, and that further implies that a Higher Caste Elite might know more than 'Fulsamee. Especially about WHY the mysterious "truth-givers" had disappeared.

The Prophet aboard the T&R seems to have almost expected the Flood to be present on Halo (Page 178), so what if the Flood were responsible for the "truth-givers" leaving the Prophets homeplanet.

Are certain high ranking Elites actually above some lowly Prophets, or does race alone firmly divide the two castes? If the Prophets are not being entirely open about their background and knowledge, would this not fan the already smoldering embers of discontent between these two Covenant founders? Time will tell.

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


Covenant Social Dynamics and Internal Power Structure

Socrates (fuel4freedom@yahoo.com) writes:

On the issue of the Covenant, specifically the religious and social hierarchy of the Covenant: I don't believe that this is a religious war at all. In fact, I think it's something much more power-oriented. I believe that, based on information present in the Fall or Reach, the "Prophets" long ago set themselves up as the leaders of the Elites, ruling over them through the then important religious aspects of both societies. However, all the Prophets were interested in power, and eventually, many years/decades/centuries later, the Prophets ruled through fiat simply because they were the most closely connected with the Gods (Forerunner).

Thus, it was not the "will of the gods" which necessitated the attempt for the destruction of the Human race, but the will of the Prophets, as political leaders. The Elites believed the Prophets were oracles, the mouthpieces of the Gods (Forerunners), speaking the words that the Forerunners communicated to them from The Beyond. The Elites, in turn, then provided the military power to keep the rest of the Covenant in line, using the religious belief system as a tool to keep loyalty and discipline.

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


Socrates continues on the Covenant comprehension of their "borrowed" tech.

Now, one final thing. The 'Engineer' mentioned in The Fall or Reach leads me to believe that the Covenant do not simply steal another race's technology, but absorb it. In one part, the Engineer disassembles and reassembles a vehicle. This would and could not be done unless the Engineer wanted to do so for purposes of analysis.

Also, think about it: to arm the entire Covenant army, the Covenant would have to have discovered a incredibly huge arms cache somewhere. And then, after that cache was depleted, they were S.O.L. But this isn't the case; with the help of the Engineers, the Covenant absorb the technology instead of steal it, and use the knowledge gained from that absorption to manufacture their weapons.

In short, the Covenant, while not necessarily being a technological parasite, acquire and analyze the technology... indeed, they understand it.

A good point to clarify. While the Covenant are primarily adaptive rather than innovative, they certainly didn't just fall off the turnip truck. They may not have achieved such levels of technology on their own, but they seem to understand their ill gotten gains quite well.

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


Geesh, if you wanted air support, all you had to do was ask...

MCDGundam (MCDGundam@aol.com) writes:

In the MAW the Master Chief escapes halo in a Longsword fighter craft. I find it a little strange that the marines or Longsword pilots did not bring the PoA's fighter craft down to halo. Why was this fighter still on the PoA when it could have been giving the human forces some much needed air support?

Halo-based Longswords can be seen in early cinematic storyboards, though they don't appear to be a factor in either the game or novelization. Not on the available equipment list? Assumed lost? Who knows, perhaps they had no one to fly it ;)

permalink | UNSC Forces

-Finn


craZy (Drow780@aol.com) writes:

I think that Bungie was unwittingly given evidence that the Master Chief isn't the last Spartan in Halo 2. Of course, I am referring to the cover art for the newest issue of OXM. The center part of the image is the MC, wielding two SMG's and sporting the new MJOLNIR armor. Now, behind him to the left and right are two figures. The one I'm talking about is the one of the left. You can see a small backpack type thing very similar to what the MC had in Halo. You can also see (what I presume is) the reflection of a visor.

And just who are the only people we know to where visors at all? Why, that would be the Spartans.

However, are these Spartans, or as mnemesis lets us in on in his E3 Halo 2 impressions (spoilers in and ahead) are they merely Marines garbed in a pseudo-Mjolnir armour? We've got our fingers crossed, but either way it should be great :)

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-Finn


No, kill YOUR television...

John Hanan (deltaflyer21@hotmail.com) writes:

I did read Daniel Barbour's text from a [Marathon] terminal and found it interesting that the speaker (presumably this Durandal character) said that he had been called Beowulf. Anybody else think it curious that Cortana and Beowulf are at odds in Fall of Reach? It's also interesting that he calls (presumably) Cortana a sword drenched in his blood, but doesn't mention any sort of retaliation. Could it be that Durandal (the Beowulf AI?) is still bitter about Cortana doing as she pleases (bypassing security with impunity or "drawing blood") and coming away unscathed?

permalink | Marathon Connections

-Finn


Sagar Patel (spartansp@yahoo.com) writes:

Why keep the bloody bastards [flood]?

In the 343GS discussions someone mentioned 343 killing the forerunner. Maybe 343 decided that for some reason (either by example or reasoning of future possibilities) the Forerunner were planning on/ or were destroying the Flood. So in order to keep them, he killed the Forerunner to preserver the Flood.

Why kill them and then keep the Flood?

The "research",†whatever it is.

Research so important that though the monitor may not entirely understand its full potential or nature, it exterminates its organic partners in order to preserve it.

Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer true, I'm half crazy all for the love of you...

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-Finn


Red Tape

J. Ross "Ebola" Keverne (Jkeverne@hotmail.com) writes:

Also why did Cortana see the need to put a Security Lock on the MCs Cyro tube? From the sound of it everybody on board had heard that he was there and it's unlikely they would try to revive him without direct orders? And even if they did why would that be a bad thing? If the ship had been invaded by Covenant there may have been a situation where a direct order to wake the MC might not have been possible, so wouldn't it make sense from a Security POV to NOT have a secondary lock on his Cryo tube?

Though suitable precautions are always good (the Master Chief is a hot parcel), if things had gone from bad to worse what would Cortana, or anyone else for that matter, have done without the Chief's release (other than take a ride in the Hurt-mobile)?

permalink | The Master Chief

-Finn


Phaedrus (fhaedrus@hotmail.com) writes:

In Two Betrayals [and AotCR], the giant Halo-gram is hard to miss, but why the flashy patches? Is it just a cool lighting effect, or do the red highlighted regions indicate something, like the presence of Flood outbreaks? It only appears on land masses, and is also present around Map room markers etc.

Could very well be. In Halo: The Flood we see that the Covenant are attempting, and failing, to contain the Flood long before Humans stumble in and make things even worse (p.178). Besides, what else would it be reporting on?

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-Finn


Scriptural speculation:

Scott Porter (porters@grenvillecc.ca) writes:

I was just sitting in class today reading your page, mind you it was a spare. When I stumbled accross:

John1:18: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Now I have been aware of the Bible connections for a long time but does not the sentence "keys of hell and of death." perhaps mean the Captains neural implants that Cortana needs to set off the PoA engines, as in "Keys of Death". That being said, "Keys of Hell" would mean the index.

Funky :)

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-Finn


Ronnie "you can be my wingman anytime" Smith (iceman_78133@yahoo.com) writes:

I looked up the word 'Cognitive' and it's a fancy word for intelligence apparently. 343 Guilty Spark states that any species that has enough Bio-mass (is large enough) and cognitive capabilities (smart enough) is a potential vector, or host I'll presume.

So with a little research the answer is simple. While the Hunters are more than big enough they are just too stupid to be useful. Hunters may be big, and strong, but aren't too bright.

Halo: The Flood shows more concretely the Flood's usage of both Jackals and Grunts to produce Carriers, yet we still receive no official word whatsoever on the Hunter's own susceptibility. For now, this will have to do ;)

permalink | The Flood

-Finn


M Scope (metroscope@hotmail.com) writes:

Why wouldn't Cortana communicate with you the whole 343 gs and library level? i mean some nav points would definitely have helped on 343 gs. what was she up to in that computer? she says in 2 betrayals that she watched you toady about helping 343 to slit our throats...something like that, anyway the key word is watched.

Perhaps she was unable to. Although, with access to so many of Halo's systems, and considering Cortana's knack for multitasking, it would seem that some assistance would not have been out of the question. The Master Chief's observation that she felt larger after being reinstalled into the suit and mind no doubt portends to something yet.

permalink | Cortana

-Finn


Matt Cannon (ramrod4th@msn.com) writes:

On Two Betrayals Cortana says " I've been COUPED up in here for twelve hours....". That would imply that HALO's network although huge wasn't a planetary sized network which is needed for A.I.'s to become rampant.

As per the old house rules at least. ;)

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-Finn


Chris "Spartan-776" Luksic (Fretburner5138@aol.com) writes:

I've taken to note the similarities between the game and the Ancient Period (Greece in particular). First off, there's this mysterious civilization (the forerunner) who just up and disappear. This is like the story of Atlantis. As Plato said, in one day and one night, a city disappeared (that's not the exact quote, but damn close).

And was swallowed by the sea on which it stood...

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-Finn


John Kinzey (JKinzey@trevornet.org) writes:

I read somewhere that the water level on halo may have been higher when it was first constructed. So I took a closer look at the flood spores and they reminded me of some kind of alien fish. Maybe the flood where originally aquatic and the water level was lowered on halo in an attempt to contain the spores. But over millions of years the flood spores evolved to become amphibious to survive on the newly formed land.

From docks to wave breaks and reservoir chasms to pipes, so much of Halo seems to be built around water. For what end purpose though?

permalink | The Flood

-Finn


"A great, great deal has been said about the weather, but very little has ever been done about it."

Steve Fowler (fowlerfoto@earthlink.net) writes:

Cortana says that it seems odd that the weather in a certain area seemed natural, not artificial, and that the climate controls may be malfunctioning. Well, if the flood were changing the atmosphere or climate, it probably would be malfunctioning then, wouldn't it?

permalink | Halo Installations

-Finn


claire bloom (claire@warrandytehigh.vic.edu.au) writes:

Just realized this, why the hell would the Flood need to change the atmosphere of Halo? They're ADAPTIVE, it makes very little sense for a race such as the flood to need to change an atmosphere. I don't really care how they would change the atmosphere, I think why is the real question!

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-Finn


E Parker writes:

My theory on the Flood are that they are a multi-celled virus, and we, are their multi-celled host "cells." As the Flood only take the live ones, so too do our one-celled not-so-friendly DNA-in-a protein covering, aka the virus.

Also, like many invertebrates inhabiting caves and deep oceans, perhaps the Flood enjoy the ability to come together to form a "community," all working toward the benefit of the whole. Certain flood may be components of an arm or an eye, a leg or a claw. In order to unite, however, they'd need to do their own version of terra-forming in which they alter the atmosphere. This is what GS was talking about when he complemented the Chief on being "a good planner."

This reminds me of another aspect of ::gasp:: the Vang (by Christopher Rowley). The Military Form has a strong genetic compulsion to produce a Higher form, a ruling Hostmaster, but only when the surroundings and foreseeable future seems reasonably secure enough to do so safely. Is atmospheric change merely a precursor to something more?

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-Finn


Breathe in, breath out... Five more, come on work those parasitic flagella!

Otto Mossberg (owm88@hotmail.com) writes:

I was thinking about the Flood needing modifying the atmosphere. But then I realized, who said anything about them NEEDING to do it? I'm guessing they didn't come together to build some kind of machine to change the air. Practically every type of life on Earth changes the air. Whether it's bacteria, producing waste gas from the food they consume, animals breathing changing O2 into CO2, or plants vice versa. I'm betting the Flood alter the air in some way simply as a bi-product of their existence.

I saw something about maybe the Flood changed the atmosphere near the control room, making it colder, but I don't think they had been loose long enough to make changes that significant. The snow there looks like it's been there for awhile. It is possible they caused the change during the "previous outbreak", but that was a few thousand years ago, so the air probably would have changed back to normal in that time.

permalink | Halo Installations

-Finn


More Rowley references!? Whatever will we do?!

Kareem Ramos (kareemr69@mail.com) writes:

I want to comment on the email sent in by Chris Davies, which I liked. I can definitely imagine that canyon†which holds the Control Room as being underwater for security reasons. It reminds me of a certain book called Starhammer. In that book, the main control room for the†star destroying weapon (the Starhammer) was placed at the bottom of a deep ocean, so that the parasitic Vang couldn't interfere. The planet eventually dried up and became forgotten, but was inhabited by a crew of humans who ran into it by chance (hint hint). The Forerunner probably did this same thing. --

This seems to have have been a definite inspiration, and in this case would explain quite a bit to boot.

permalink | Halo Installations

-Finn


Keepin' things super cool...

Roy Miller (Jared7130@msn.com) writes:

The reason why the area around the control room is cold is quite simple. Machinery and computers work better when in a cold climate. You can notice this when laptops and/or video game systems start humming. Their fans are moving to cool them down. With the cold climate around the control room, Halo can operate more efficiently. The weather also helps the sentinels operate better as well, because they are machines. The climate†probably doesn't have much to do with the flood at all.

Efficiency at its finest, my friend :)

permalink | Halo Installations

-Finn


And with an entirely reasonable, though somewhat dampening, assertion,

Matt Cannon (ramrod4th@msn.com) writes:

In Halo the Flood, captain Keyes see's a hurricane forming over on ocean. Maybe the inclement weather is just part of halo's normal environmental function.

Hah! But what abou... I bet you didn't think of... You're forgettin... aww, shucks.

;)

permalink | Halo Installations

-Finn


Colin "kojimyuu" Burch (kojimyuu@hotmail.com) writes:

In answer to Spacer's (spacer1@blueyonder.co.uk) question: "About the covenant, why is such a technologically advanced society (compared to humans) worried about religion?..."

There have been many technologically advanced, war-like societies on Earth.

Take the Mongols, for example. They were actually quite technologically advanced for their time (although not as advanced as those of Europe's).

Not to mention the plethora of lamentable contemporary examples...

Indeed, the Mongols are only one of many Earth cultures that have placed a premium on both technology and religion (and to a lesser degree, theology). Arguably, there would be no internal conflict in a society seeking to further their mechanical understanding of the universe while simultaneously inquiring into the purpose based (teleological) system of how and why it is what it is.

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


Do this, don't do that...

Wyatt Mustful (Wmustful@aol.com) writes:

Crystals. What if the crystal found, that had Halo's Coordinates, was really a warning beacon, saying that this installation has been quarantined, or something similar to that. :Shrugs: Just wondering.

"Oh, those Covenant/Human fools...they must've know, there must have been signs!"

Now, if only we could read them :(

permalink | Halo Installations

-Finn


The Cole Protocol

Otto Mossberg (owm88@hotmail.com) writes:

I think Ryan7 was on to something with his theory on how the Covenant found Earth. Remember on the bridge when Cortana says "I'm detecting taps throughout the ship, Sentinels most likely". That last part really seems to say something. I had never given it much thought until I read that theory, but now... It seems to point to someone ELSE being on the ship, not just Spark and company.

343, Sentinels, Covenant Engineers, ?

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


John Poelking (beaner117@wideopenwest.com) writes:

Dave B. says that the cole protocol involves totally wiping the system. i think he's wrong. if I'm correct the protocol states you must wipe the nav, not history, but nav memory. that's why spark said what he did on level 10.

The Cole Protocol does call for only a "selective purge", stressing that vessels or installations "must not be captured with intact navigation databases" (TFoR, p.135). Even giving Cortana the benefit of the doubt that she properly initiated the protocol, those criteria still leave open the possibility of a great deal of varied information having survived intact...

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-Finn


I hope you've enjoyed our time together today. I'll be meeting up with our covert operative mnemesis (already in the field) in due time to continue our in-depth recon, information gathering, and interrogations. Grisly work, but somebody's got to do it. If any Halo 2 story details surface, we'll include it in our debriefing following extraction from E3 and the Fanfestivities... that is, after the controllers have been extracted from our cold, cold hands...

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-Finn


May 12, 2003

Three to get ready...

kareem ramos (kareemr69@mail.com) writes:

We have yet to see it the Flood can survive in space, but if they can, then the Flood are probably spread all over the galaxy by now (in one of the Vang books, it says that the Vang can survive in space as long as the universe exists; they travel in space pods that look like big, silver pumpkins). Some probably found their way onto Covenant worlds. I recall some Bungie employee (Jason Jones?) saying that the Covenant and the Flood have a long history together. In Starhammer, there's a race of slavers called the Laowon who ran into the Vang, and were forced to glass two of their own planets in order to sterilize the threat. I'm guessing the Covenant have had a similar experience.

Perhaps they have. The Prophets at least did not seem surprised by the Flood's presence on the ring at all, though many Elites, 'Zamamee included, did not have the slightest clue...

As for the vacuum resilience of the Flood, for our sake let us hope we find them quite vulnerable.

permalink | The Flood

-Finn


Please, do not feed the Flood.

Pete (peter.paglia@tekelec.com) writes:

What if the flood are only dangerous when they eat? What if the nature of flood organisms is altered by the feeding response? Maybe that's why Halo only destroys the food, not the flood themselves? Then the Flood would revert to their natural state (we've not seen this yet, since our very presence excited the Flood feeding response.)

What if the Flood are to the Forerunners, like piranha fish are to us? Piranhas are dangerous to other fish, but we (humans) can easily observe them when they are contained in a fish tank. I've even seen divers swim among piranha safely, as long as there not feeding. A behaviour changing "feeding frenzy" is not limited to piranha and sharks, ever see shoppers on the day after Thanksgiving?

Although once the food (sentient life) is gone and the Flood no longer are at risk of succumbing to their volatile feeding response, who then is safe from them, as the Flood is still spread throughout space and there is no one left TO BE safe (they are all dead at the Halo's hands), except the Forerunner perhaps, if they have evaded the blast and have suitable means to study the newly pacified parasite. Nonetheless, any attempt to reoccupy the areas that still contain this now docile Flood would immediately prompt the dangerous food response. Curious...

permalink | The Flood

-Finn


Unless the Flood find no delight in the Forerunner themselves...

Lord Can of Pain (coledec@hotmail.com) writes:

Could it be that the reason the Forerunners contained them instead of wiping them out was that they where only a threat to others? The Forerunners might have been immune, be it that their bodies could fight off the Flood or they might not have even been made of biomass. They could have been a race of living crystals or rock or just something not based on the usual living cells. To get to the stage that they†are at would have taken thousands of generations and remarkable advancements. The usual Forerunner might have lived for millions of years and so the repopulation of a galaxy wouldn't seem that long to them. They might have felt the same of taking this galaxy out as we would of fumigating a bunch of harmful termites and a colony of ants got in the way.

While throwing a wrench into most Human/Forerunner theorizing, the idea does still have merit.

permalink | The Forerunner

-Finn


Super Tanoshii Bonus Email!

Simpsons Rule (Simpsonsrule17@aol.com) writes:

I was searching Encarta for words like Covenant and Flood and Halo. I stumbled upon some interesting religious attachments with the Covenant that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere. For now read this piece of Halobacteria. It mentions the rotten egg smell, and if I remember correctly at the end of the level 343 Guilty Spark, you encounter the only time where you can see the marines fight the flood. One marine will say something like "man these things smell when they pop." This could be referring to the rotten egg smell of the Halobacteria. Also it mentions the Halobacteria release sulfur and not oxygen. This sounds like "the flood changing their environment." The resemblances are there...

Halophilic indeed. A quick search on Google will reveal more detailed information on this rather curious coincidence.

permalink | Rampant Speculation

-Finn


May 9, 2003

Cortana, Beowulf, Wellsley... Humanity seems to have the A.I. market cornered. In a forum post, Simpsons Rule asks the question that no one else has yet had the courage to: "Where are the Covenant A.I.'s?". Not only a thought provoking idea, but one worthy of comment by Halo Story Bible thumper, Brannon Boren. Check out the thread and help flesh out the concept!

permalink | The Covenant

-Finn


May 6, 2003

Two for the show...

S7N (N.J.R.Jones@brighton.ac.uk) writes:

On The Maw, on the Pillar of Autumn, it is is over 2 km from the reactor room to where you meet Foe Hammer, and an extra 1 km to the Longsword Interceptor. so this means that the Pillar of Autumn is over 3 km long. Fair enough, my point being that MC doesn't need a Warthog to cover all that distance, if the game had make him run as fast as he should!

At the start of FoR it states that the Spartans sprint up a half-kilometer hill in 32 seconds flat [56.25 km/h, uphill]. later on, after they have been augmented and are training in the caves, Mendez says that the Spartans can run at up to bursts of 55 kmph, and that's WITHOUT the Mjolnir suits!

My point in all this is, that the total distance from the reactor to the Interceptor is 3 km, the Master Chief can cover it in under 6 minutes which is the allocated time!

Faster than a speeding bullet; more powerful than a locomotive; able to sprint the lengths of Human warships in a...

Well, to keep things simple, if they could keep it up at 55 km/h, the Maw run of roughly 3 km would take only about 3:15; well under time. As Dr. Halsey also said, they were also not yet adjusted to their physiological enhancements and would only become faster. And additionally as Nicholas pointed out, this is without the further augmentation of the Mjolnir suit. Just how fast can a fully prepped Spartan run anyway?

permalink | SPARTAN

-Finn


Bungie likes military references. Bungie likes acronyms. This should be the perfect thing for me.

Stephen Kelly (gamescout11@attbi.com) writes:

While doing a report on the Korean war for my teacher, I was looking at a timeline. I saw something oddly yet almost completely related to Halo. It said the 1st Marine airforce wing engaged an enemy force blah blah blah. Marine Airforce Wing is shortened to MAW. Now what if the real name for the last level of Halo isn't the Maw but The Marine Airforce Wing. Hmm. Doesn't seemed related does it. Well... actually... it kinda is. The Chief leaves in a Longsword interceptor right? And this is a fighter plane right? So wouldn't it be part of the Marine Airforce Wing.

permalink | UNSC Forces

-Finn


The plethora of updates as of late could easily be credited to a zealous mailbag scrubbing ("You're purging is the will of the Gods, and we are their instruments"... whoa, that was weird), but is also the result of an influx of unique, informed speculation. Remember, the search function is as close to an absolute good as you can get around here. Keep it up :)

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-Finn


Did ONI know about Halo before we ever got there? More than a few references have been hauled out to show that this, indeed, was the case. Two specific things to chew on here.

Zoidberg (screwsean@hotmail.com) writes:

On the bridge on the main screen you can see 'Target ID: Halo'

Had the ONI recruited cortana and given her the co-ordinates to Halo either for recon or to check up on a previous mission. Well this would explain how she knew the name of the structure (Halo). Well why her? Simple, shes a piece of code...with a limited life span. And she can be manipulated i.e. memory files removed etc. AND if she should become a threat to ONI interests she can simply be deleted or, when being transferred in one of those neural chip things, lost. And she has a perfect delivery system...the chief.

An AI going missing isn't a big deal. BUT a human death raises questions.

Well if she had been recruited.....what for?

As I said recon...find out specifics of Halo (which she did), or check up on a previous recon team. This could go towards explaining the weird unknown marines on GS with EMP on their backs. In addition to explaining why there are dead marines all over places that no one from the POA had been prior to you.

As mentioned recently the proximity of HALO to earth or human space.

I find it hard for something like Halo to go un-noticed. Someone must have picked it up, if its so close.

This could also explain the holy war the covenant have waged on us. ONI found HALO, sent a team to investigate, its holy ground for the covenant, we desecrate Halo in their eyes....holy war begins.

One thing to remember, though: We have ONI, the Covenant have the Prophets. One or the other (or both) could be pulling the political strings that direct this "holy war." As has been said before, and by an AI much greater than me, "There are obviously many things which we do not understand, and may never be able to."

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He's also got an idea about the Flood.

Regarding the door that the covies sealed and keyes then opened in 343 Guilty Spark.

As has been mentioned, the flood were already out and about doing their thing, so why seal the door?

Perhaps it wasn't to keep something in, but to keep something out. Now if I remember correctly, weren't the gun placements and shields set up in a way that appeared to be wanting to keep something out, rather than keep something in?

On the top when u first enter the complex there are no defences, if u wanted to keep something in, that would be where u would place your last line of defence as it were, but if u think of trying to keep something out, then that same area is undefendable, its too open, so they move their first line to where it is after u get off the lift, because any enemy coming in would be concentrated in a smaller space and easier to take out.

All gun placements are pointed at the doors you go through (coming from outside, going in). As are the shields.

Perhaps there was something important in that facility and the covenant knew that if they wanted to keep it, they'd have to fight for it.

Keyes' stated reason for going down there in the first place was to retrieve an arms cache. In Halo: The Flood, however, we learn that it's a cache of Covenant weapons that were brought there to help guard the place. It wouldn't be that unusual for the Elites, Jackals, and Grunts to not know all of the specifics of the contents of the structure they've been sent to guard.

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-mnemesis


We had some recent speculation on the relative merits of hot and cold weather in relation to the health and well-being of the Flood. There's been a little bit of a response to that, not the least of which is this observation of DNA and optimum environments.

James Kinsella (jckinsella@redrunr.net) writes:

I have just read all of the stuff on how the cold could be a defense against the Flood, and how it could be to gain a slight battle advantage for the Sentinels. Personally I disagree. The Flood take bodies and mutate them, which degrades DNA. the hotter you get the more degraded the DNA becomes. and the worse off the host body is. This means that areas like the AOTCR level are perfect for Flood.

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Chris, however, has a different theory on the purpose of the canyons in AotCR.

Chris Davies (insertkoin@hotmail.com) writes:

Basically, it's a matter of looking at the shape of the canyon that the Control Room is in- a relatively thin, very deep slit in the ground. At one end of the canyon is the shrine; at the other is a very tall, frozen waterfall. Now, let's imagine that the Flood have managed to get to the stage when they start to alter the atmosphere, and let's imagine further that this alteration makes things warmer on Halo. Okay, Occam's Razor is screaming for mercy at this point, but we'll ignore that.

As the temperature rises, the waterfall at the back of the Control Room canyon begins to melt. Looking at the surrounding area, there seems to be nowhere for this water to go, so the Canyon starts to fill with water...

...and before too long, the Control Room is buried under millions of gallons of water, making it pretty damn hard for anyone to get to it. The coldness of this area is a failsafe; if the Flood ever get numerous enough to threaten the safety of the Halo, its most important room is sealed away by a system that requires no electronics, no-one to activate it, and no moving parts.

...but if you look at the doors to the main chamber itself, there are two sets of double doors, which would make a pretty effective airlock.

Not too shabby! Quite an ingenious solution. Those inscrutable alien races can be so clever sometimes.

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-mnemesis


Insert Index to restart...

Madscientist (d.kettle@talk21.com) writes:

If the Forerunners did start experiments to find the perfect species/being then they may have realised that there may be a number of failures when the Flood escaped or the other species wiped each other out or something else happened. So it would make sense that they would create the ability to restart the experiment so to speak. Halo is capable of stopping the Flood without completely destroying life, as only life big enough to support the Flood is destroyed. This would also act as a reset for the other species in the galaxy. If the experiment was reset in this way it also makes sense that the Forerunners would have ensured that there was enough left behind to continue the experiment. It may also explain why the Flood has been around for so long but Humanity (and possibly the Covenant) has not. It may also explain why the MC is recognised by GS although it doesn't really explain why he is called Reclaimer or why GS doesn't like the Covenant.

...

Finally (at last) this begs the question if the Forerunners designed the Halo rings as a restart if the Flood escaped what other situations would be considered a failure and require a restart.

While the notion of the Forerunner creating the Flood has been discussed, and in many cases consequently dismissed, the idea of a galaxy-wide "reset button" is deceptively intriguing. We know that there are other "installations" that would presumably fire if Halo 04 does, so would there be other circumstances, specific to those locations, that would necessitate a "reset?"

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Colin "kojimyuu" Burch (kojimyuu@hotmail.com) writes:

It's my speculation that he is actually hacking into Cortana (she is in the PoA's computers by that point, trying to activate the countdown to the engine detonation). She does say, after all, that, "He's in my data arrays --- a local tap."

Cortana could easily hold information like the location of Earth, plus much, much more. She holds tactical information for use in battle. Maybe she holds records of age-old battles for later use in modern battles? Don't forget the quote, "History repeats itself."

Theoretically, Cortana would purge the location of Earth from her own data banks, as per the Cole Protocol. However, as we all know, one can never be to sure when it comes to shipboard AIs.

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Tikiman (tikiman0@bellsouth.net) writes:

In the beginning of Two Betrayals, 343 GS mentions that MC must insert the index into the master control panel, because units of his classification do not have the priority to reunite the index with the core. Is he hinting that other Forerunner robots, obviously more important than he, exist(ed)? Definetly so!

Where are they? Can we look forward to multiple Sparks in Halo 2? It is our fervent hope and desire that, if so, not all of them have spent the last 101,217 years going slowly insane.

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-mnemesis


The enigmatic utterances of 343 Guilty Spark perplex another unsuspecting victim, yet another case is made for our indestructible little lunatic being but one of many.

Damien Kellis (dkellis@neo-anime.org) writes:

I have just obtained a copy of Halo, and I've been playing it fairly religiously for the past week or so.

What interested me greatly were the actions and words of the Monitor, 343 Guilty Spark. I'll have to use your level transcriptions for reference, as 343 GS is rather inaudible in my game.

343 Guilty Spark is supposedly the Monitor of Installation 04, and, as he says, "My function is to prevent it from leaving this installation." (end of the 343 Guilty Spark level).

Later, in the Library level, he says a lot of other interesting things. Namely:

"Pardon me. A plasma conduit breach in section 5-5-2-4 has disrupted power flow to a gravitic maintenance assembly."

and

"Flood activity has caused a failure in a drone control subsystem. I must reset the backup unit. Continue on. I will rejoin you when I have completed my task."

Apart from wondering what is this drone control system that must be reset, one may also speculate on 343 GS's job scope. Is his duty simply to prevent the Flood from escaping (in which case, where was he when the Flood were first released?), or is he the odd-job AI of Halo?

When you journey through the corridors of the Library (why is it called a Library, when there are no records of any sort?), very often 343 Guilty Spark either proceeds on a course that you cannot possibly follow, or he asks you to wait in one place while he fiddles with the security overrides. Why would an AI supposedly in charge of the entire Halo installation require any overrides? Where does he go when you cannot see him?

Not counting the obvious superweapon, does 343 Guilty Spark actually have full control of Halo's systems in the first place?

One more quote may shed some light onto this speculation.

"The installation was specifically built to study and contain the Flood. Their survival as a race was dependent upon it. I am grateful to see that some of them survived to reproduce."

I understand that 343 GS may not be talking about the Flood when he speaks of reproducing, but let us assume (for the sake of this argument) that he is.

Which leads us to a problem: the way he phrases it ("I am" as opposed to "I was") would indicate that he did not know before a recent accounting whether or not the Flood had actually survived.

Either the Monitor is remiss in his Monitoring duties, or he was not the one specifically in charge of scrutinizing the Flood.

Leela, Durandal and Tycho, perhaps?

Is it possible that 343 Guilty Spark is not the only AI left behind by the Forerunners? Could there be some others that we just haven't met? If so, what could their fates post-Halo-destruction have been?

E3 lurches ever closer, and with it the hopes of some small bit of Halo Story goodness, duly reported to you here. Both Finn and I will be present to beat... er, cajole the truth out of whomever we can find. Sources say Joe Staten, the "Voice of Grunts Everywhere," will be on hand, so keep your eyes peeled and your ears to the ground.

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-mnemesis


May 5, 2003

One for the money...

Trevor White (twhite1721@hotmail.com) writes:

I believe that the Flood were at one time a dying race. The Forerunner found this dying race and being all technologically advanced realized that the Flood had the ability to improve upon systems within the body of a life form that had suitable bio-mass. The Forerunner, not unlike humanity, had the most basic instinctual drive of preservation and they rounded up/collected all specimens of the Flood they could find and they put them into specifically designed research facilities; i.e. HALO. The Forerunner would have also realized the huge danger in such an undertaking and in realizing this they also added a built-in fail safe device in case the Flood ever escaped. If this is the case then the Flood are nothing more than an endangered species that is making a comeback, kinda like the California Condor.

Once again, do the Flood still exist out of sympathy?

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The Flood as an attempt to create the perfect organism.

Trevor continues,

This next bit of pondering is merely fanciful thought, but what if the Forerunner believed that genetic perfection was most important above all else. They would be the organic equivalent to Star Trek's BORG. They searched the galaxy looking for genetic material with which they could further their quest for perfection. The Flood just happened to be one of these. After they had introduced the plus parts of the Flood or any other genetic material into their own matrices they would cleanse or "Reclaim" the space that material inhabited so that only they (The Forerunner) with their perfect selves would exist. This still doesn't answer what happened to the Forerunner, who knows maybe they died out because of lack of new genetic difference (inbreeding is bad).

So were the Flood encountered and used in this quest for genetic supremacy, or were they created as a product of it? Would they be an attempt at, or a stepping stone to, the perfect organism?

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-Finn


May 4, 2003

Greg Salber (hsalber@attbi.com) writes:

Has anyone considered that the flood could be some sort of warped mutated†age old form of the forerunner? Maybe they could have wiped themselves out in some sort of nucleur war.† As a result they mutated into other forms.†(You know,†Planet of the Apes style)† 343 guilty spark† hints at the reason for the study of the flood, "their†survival as a race was dependant on it."† Maybe the survival is dependant on them being studied to find out how to return them to their original state.† Perhaps 343 mistakes you as one of the surviving forerunner.

So 343 Guilty Spark is the custodian of his former masters, crippled beyond recognition, awaiting a "reclaimer" who can restore the species to their once noble and proud state. I like it. :-)

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-mnemesis


Corey "manic" White (the_trailerpark_kid@hotmail.com) writes:

One thing that always stunned me was the neutron bomb. It's along the lines of the Atom bomb, but instead of a massive explosion that vaporises everything, it emits radiation that only effects living things. For example, drop a neutron bomb on a city, kill it's occupants, but keep all the building and all the goodies instead of having to rebuild everything. Doesn't this sound a little like "this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or at least any life with sufficient biomass to sustain the flood." Maybe the Halo is like a giant neutron bomb explosion.

Now if this were the case then anyone still on the installation at the time of the detonation would die (which has been a point in question for some time), and I would specualte that the flood warriors and carriers would be susceptible to the radiation caused by the explosion, but the spores themselves may have some sort of natural resistance.

Whilst there may have been immense amounts of radiation throughout the galaxy, there has been many millenia since the detonation, and thus this may no longer me an issue. And whose to say if the radiation would necessarily have any adverse effects on any evolving micro-organisms. It might affect their evolution, but you could not really be sure how.

Good points.

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Eric Hampton (psichotykdragon@hotmail.com) writes:

Okay, we know that 343GS has access to all kinda nifty stuff(i.e. teleporter grid and such). Maybe he can also "scan" someone's DNA? If so, maybe being a "Reclaimer" means that one possesses a genetic resilience to the Flood. This could definitely explain why the Flood left Mobuto's body mangled; it was useless to them.

Very interesting hypothesis. The "Anti-Flood" gene: Do you have it?

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-mnemesis


Socrates (fuel4freedom@yahoo.com) writes:

All this talk about the weather has gotten me thinking. What I'm thinking is this: what if the 'incliment weather' seen on Halo is not an accident or environmental variation, but a weapon against the Flood? It seems to me that (like the Borg from Star Trek) the Flood would want to have a higher-than-normal temperature. If the Covenant discovered the flood sometime during our romp in AotCR, then the systems of Halo itself may have, as a first response, began a temperature change to make things as cold as possible. Perhaps extremely cold temperatures inhibit the Flood's mobility or ability to infect/eat/take over hosts/food, thereby slowing down the spread of the Flood.

Consider the inverse: What if the Flood were restricted by warmer temperatures, hence the swamp-like atmosphere on 343 GS, and that the cold weather on AotCR was an example of the Flood "altering the atmosphere?"

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However, SN seems to think differently.

SN (sorenn@attglobal.net) writes:

The weather around the control rooms has been speculated over a fair amount, I think I may have a suitable answer. Although this might seem a rather small effect perhaps the reason for keeping a constant winter around the Control Room was to preserve bodies. Perhaps the cold made it take longer for the flood to break down the bodies for food or to infect. I don know about you but I think I could eat jackal tenderloin faster than I could a gruntcicle. Seeing that this cold weather would not really affect the sentinels it could be a small battle advantage. And what better place to do this rather than at the most important installation. My best guess as to why not do this over all of halo would be that they wanted to test the flood in different environments or something to that effect.

Is the cold weather around the Control Room related to the functions of the Flood? Or is it just part of normal procedures on Halo?

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SN has got a couple of other ideas, as well.

SN (sorenn@attglobal.net) writes:

The debate over why human weapons are so useful against the flood despite Guilty Spark opinion. My first idea is adaptation, assuming a few flood awaken from stasis or get loose every millennia or so and they would be contained by the sentinels and have little chance to make an effective escape because of the lack of hosts. Seeing that they have been microwaved by those pesky red beams for so long why not adapt to resist them. The covenant, having based their tech on the forerunner have similar weapons, so the flood could resist those as well. But not having been exposed to projectile weapons are not yet used to them (not that they couldn get resistant to those in short order as well). The only problem with this is that it does not explain Guilty Spark dislike of them. Another more original idea (at least I think so) that does explain is that while the human weapons are great in skirmish combat, in a large-scale battle they would be less effective. Seeing that projectile weapons in general tear up and distort flesh (a physical change), it would make the flesh unusable of a body, but not for food. The burning lasers (or whatever they are) of the sentinels would burn the flesh removing all nutritional value (a chemical change). So with a gun you might take down your enemy but there is nothing to stop his friends from coming and eating him (like all good friends should) later.

101,217 years might be enough time to develop a kind of resistance to the Sentinels' lasers, all right.

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SN (sorenn@attglobal.net) writes:

It seems that there is a reason that Mr. Nylund put Dr. Hasleyís office in an old titanium mine deep underground. He could have just been trying to show how much the rest of the navy resented her work. Or he might have been writing a possible means of survival for her. I donít think it would be to much of a stretch of the imagination to assume that her office was deep enough to survive the glassing. Though how she gets out when the door has become a huge sheet of glass is a mystery. But she could of blasted out or contacted a salvage team surveying the wreckage in the system. Some Spartans could be down there too for that matter. Why not go take shelter with your closest thing to a mom when you realize the worlds doomed.

The possible return of Dr. Halsey is just one of the many things to look forward to in Halo 2, yet time keeps ticking slowly on, tick, tock...

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-mnemesis


Alpha Halo 04 might be just a hop, skip, and a jump from Earth...

Arthur Wellesly (arthur_wellesly@hotmail.com ) writes:

The last date given on the Fall of Reach just as the POA was leaving Reach was August 30. Then the ship arrived at Halo on September 19. That's only about 20 days from the heart of the Human Empire! To use another date reference, it took John and the other Spartans from November 2 until November 27 to get to Chi Cheti 4. That is 25 days! So, assuming that the Human borders are the same all the way around, Halo was INSIDE the Human borders, and I don't know about you guys, but I think it would be pretty hard to overlook such a significant installation. Now, perhaps the human border is shorter at parts than others and maybe the Spartans waited a few days before leaving for Chi Cheti 4, but still that would still place Halo VERY close to the Human border close enough to be explored by a ship or at the very least seen with a telescope. It just doesn't make sense.

That leads me to my other theory. Maybe ONI did know about Halo but kept it a secret from the public. Maybe they knew that aliens existed long before 2525. However I've exhausted my theorying for the day, and I cannot speculate as to why they would know about it and not investigate it.

How do we know they haven't investigated it?

(Update: ìThe Covenant ships have always been fasterî. The journey from Halo 04 to Reach in the Ascendant Justice took only 13 hours (FS p.95) versus the 3 weeks it took the Pillar of Autumn going the other way. replay (replay0@hotmail.com) has posted his assertion that Delta Halo 05 may also be well within Human explored space. Long, but thorough -Finn :)

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-mnemesis


Relating to a former post concerning the possibility of Humanity's prior knowledge of Halo 04...

Arthur Wellesly (arthur_wellesly@hotmail.com) writes:

However, Stanforth obviously knew Sigma Octanus 4 had an important piece of information, and it made sense to him that the Covenant were interested. Now I think I know why....

Indeed. ;-)

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-mnemesis


May 3, 2003

HBO Forum speculation strikes again! Relative newcomer Mooreberg puts out a unique theory on the "usefulness" of the Flood. In a nutshell, the idea is that some aspect of the Flood was utilized to ensure the health of the Forerunner, not unlike the way radiation is used to treat cancer.

This is really the only way I can think of that would fulfill the crieria of 343 GS' seemingly contradictory statement. Halo contained the flood so they could be studied and used to treat plagued Forerunner, but also acted as a failsafe to prevent the flood from spreading and making the galaxy [un]inhabitable. If the Forerunner could build Halo and develop technology far beyond what humans of the 26th century had seen, than terraforming and repopulating the galaxy wouldn't be such a difficult task.

Jamirus99 (among others) responds with a link to a previous post of his own that has some good complementary points, some of which have already been posted here. He claims that his theory disproves Mooreberg's, but I'm not sure about that. Go give both threads a read and join the discussion! As always, feel free to send us your thoughts.

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-mnemesis


May 2, 2003

A Pfheast of Pfhorum Pfhancy

Over on the ubiquitous HBO Forum, a number of folks have been speculating recently. In no particular order, here they are. Give them a look and comment where appropriate.

Looking forward to Halo 2, nukedude wonders how the Earth will be saved. Count Zero weighs in with an interesting possibility, while our own boy wonder Pfh... er, Finn comes up with a short list of options to assault the senses and FriendlyFire (man, the F's are flying fast and furious around here!) offers a general analysis of religious warfare.


On the nature and operation of the Halo itself, MC vince comes up with a few thoughts. One particularly insightful bit is in response to 343 Guilty Spark's comment that, "This installation's research facilities are most impressive! Perhaps you will have time to see them later."

Insanity aside, Spark's comment does seem to indicate that there will be a "later" for the Reclaimer.

Silock also steps in with a nicely written discussion on the Halo as a fortress world (remember those?).


Lastly, Roger Wilco gets it all of his chest with a post aptly named "*Long*". There's a lot of interesting stuff in this one. Notably, the comparison between the interiors of the PoA and the T&R, and an addendum covering some of the stylistic elements found in Covenant design and engineering. Holy Hand Grenade, indeed. ;-) It might be a long read, but you could do worse than check it out.

If any of that gets your speculative gears churning, you can either respond in those threads or, as always, send it to us!

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